16 January, 2007

Closed This Week

Well folks, it seems as though they found the still in the cellar. Just kidding! I will be back next week.
  • Please pray for me as I preach at Rose Point Reformed Presbyterian Church this coming Lord's Day

  • Pray that the semester gets off to a good start, I have 19 credits, plus my job.

  • Pray that my Dutch Reformed Ecclesiology professor sees the superiority of the Westminster over the Three Forms of Unity.

23 comments:

Mark said...

Ah, but the three forms are just that - three distinct forms that are part of one entity. Thus, they're Trinitarian, whereas the Westminster is obviously Unitarian. But that's just my Dutch Reformed bias showing...

Good luck with your semester, man. That's quite the load.

Mrs. P said...
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Nate said...

This third prayer request with some tongue in cheek. Take it as so please.

Mark said...

Oh, of course. My response was equally tongue-in-cheek, sorry if it came off as otherwise.

Nate said...

Oh I know Mark. It did not come off wrongly.

Droll Flood said...

-19 credits? So what are you going to do in all your free time?

-The Westminster divines were Unitarians?

-Out of curiousity: superior in what sense, Nate? When you have time, explain yourself.

Robbie said...

Nate,
I believe we met this summer at Covenant Reformed Presbyterian Church in Meadville Pa, I was the intern there this past summer. Am i correct? You were with you wife and cousin who is a nurse in the Grand Rapids area?

I do not know that much about the three forms of unity. But i do appreciate the dear ol Heidelberg a great deal. I find the stress on personal piety to be a comfort and a useful guide. I do not necessarily see it above or below the Westminster, i just see the stress in a different direction of the Christian life. Together they complement each other very well.

in the end all that matters is that unitarians are cool

Notliberal said...

I hate it when folks refer to those fellas as the 'Westminster Divines.' Give me a break, they're sinful men. Very blessed men, but sinful nonetheless.

Anonymous said...

Definition of Divine(s):

"a clergyman or other person in religious orders"

• adjective (diviner, divinest) 1 of, from, or like God or a god. 2 informal excellent.

• noun: dated a cleric or theologian. (OED)


I believe that the use of Divines is in reference to the noun, not the adjective, therefore making it a totally appropriate term to use. Nobody sees them as sinless men.

Lydia said...

Oops, that was me.

Nate said...

Real quick, since I am closed-
-Mark, of course I understood that you were joking.
-Droll, NO they were not unitarians and the way that the Westminster is superior is that it is a fuller or more mature statement of the Reformed faith. I would be happy to see people ACTUALLY believe either the 3 forms or the Westminster! And free time leads to too much leisure and intellectual laziness.
-Notliberal, Lydia is right. It is the Old school word for theologians or ministers. The usage is out of date, but still holds for Westminster. It is WAY better than the Dutch Fathers who were called Dominae which translates as LORD!
-Lydia, good use of the OED. Every use makes it worth owning.

Long and short- pray for me this weekend as I bring the word PA brothers and sisters!

Droll Flood said...

"It is WAY better than the Dutch Fathers who were called Dominae which translates as LORD!"

-If it's "Domine" it's a vocative for 'Lord'. One could make a defence for the term biblically

-If it's Domini, it's a genetive, 'belonging to God' or 'of the Lord'.

-So in essence, Nate, get off it. It's the same thing as 'divine'.

Droll Flood said...

-Just because some is called Lord, doesn't necessarily mean LORD as if they were Jehovah. Check out your OED.

Nate said...

Okay, Droll, I recant!

Droll Flood said...

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dominie:

'Dominie' is a Scots language and Scottish English term for a Scottish schoolmaster or a minister, usually of the Church of Scotland but sometimes of other presbyterian churches in Scotland.


Origin
It comes from the Latin domine (vocative case of Dominus 'Lord, Master') and is equivalent to the Dutch Dominee which also refers to protestant clergy. When the Church of Scotland began to introduce universal provision of education in Scotland after it became established as a national church in 1560, its aim was for each church to have a university educated schoolmaster, so that there was a school for every parish. The minister often also served as the schoolmaster, and was commonly called the "dominie". Over time this came to be used as a slightly contemptuous term for a minister or for a schoolmaster.


-Well then, Nate...

Droll Flood said...

lol

Droll Flood said...

-By the way, Nate. Beer sounds good...

lloyd said...

The way I heard the Westminster described before is as "the over ripened fruit of the reformation". But, I am CRC, so that's probably about what you expect from us. ;-)

Droll Flood said...

lloyd:
"The way I heard the Westminster described before is as "the over ripened fruit of the reformation". But, I am CRC, so that's probably about what you expect from us.;-)"

-Out of curiousity, what was the grounds to say this for whoever described it to you?

-Just because a person belongs to a certain denomination doesn't mean that person is held to follow the denom. wherever it may go. We destinguish between perscriptive and descriptive.

lloyd said...

Droll, the friend that made that comment is of the opinion that the Westminster goes to far in some areas, and legislates things that should be left to Christian liberty. I believe that's what he was getting at.

Droll Flood said...

"Westminster goes to far in some areas, and legislates things that should be left to Christian liberty."

-Did he name some areas or give a tangible definition of Christian liberty to you?

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lloyd said...

No Droll, it was mostly a passing comment that he made, and not an in depth discussion of the matter.